does anyone have a clue how to "fix" blown discs. i have c-5, s-1 l5, l5 l4, l4 l3? drx 9000 machine is way expensive and no dr that owns 1 is probonoing any of it. i would love to see if prolotherapy would work but i dont know enough about it or anyone who would stick the discs. or the consequences of that. i have an inversion table and i do rehab excercises but its not enough. thanks in advance. tim nagy.

Tim, what exactly do you mean by "blown" discs?? I'm assuming from the comment about inversion tables that the discs are or have been detoriating and now the disc space between the vertebrae that you have listed is quite small.
 
I think the drx 9000 is some sort of new and fancy computerized decompression table or something, but I might be wrong on that one.
 
The prolotherapy I'm not so sure about. Obviously you need to know that the doctor injecting into the ligaments of your spine knows what and where the hell he is going. I am pretty sure that no doctor of any legit standing would ever shoot into discs, that would be the kiss of death I would assume for that disc, I don't know how rupture wouldn't follow a "sticking" of a disc with a needle.
 
What exactly is the problem?? I'm guessing your solution isn't going to need to be that expensive or esoteric for the results your looking for.
 
Later,
 
Heath

I have a herniated disc between 9 and 10 I think. I have used a decompression table for it and my experience was a waste of money. I was unable to train during the process and when I was done I felt the same and had lost a lot of strength from not training. I am just currently trying pack on as much muscle as possible around the aea and just deal with the pain.

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BK,
 
Before you try this training consult a physician that specializes in sports science. I admit that I have a limited knowledge about injuries. I do however think that I know how to stay injury free.
 
My guess is that an injury that high on your back was caused by rounding your back. I would suggest upper back training to strengthen that area. It is my experience that most competitors’ don’t do enough to strengthen that area. I would do things light, with perfect form, and higher reps to make it effective. Start off by not over exerting yourself as you do sets of 30 or more. Latt pull down would probably be a good place to start; don’t do them behind your neck. Also if you have a seated row machine that may also help but do it extremely light and bend your knees to gather up and release the handle. This way you shouldn’t round your back to get it or release it. Also keep your chest puffed out and high pushing towards your chin to prevent rounding. It will limit your motion but help to pull things back into place and support the injury.
 
PS consult your physician!!!

Pete
 
I have had the injury since my senior year of high school, so going on seven years. I am training with Van Hatfield and have gotten advice from Sam MacMahon. The only time I ever feel pain on events is the yoke or if it is already irritated.
 
I have not been to a doctor for it for lack of funds but did try the chriopracter and the decompression table. I hope to eventually go to a physician for it when I have the funds. In the mean time I will try out your advice.
 
Thaks,
Bronson

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BK,
 
I have 3 bulging discs in my lower back: L3-4, L4-5 and L5-S1. All three of these discs also have very visible dessication (drying out). I experienced my first "injury" during Ford's show and had to drop out after the second event. Basically, it's a injury that could have happen with a back in any condition - I just got out of form, strain / sprained some muscles and jammed up some facets.
 
I've gone and see my chiropractor, talked extensively with my cousin (a chiro), and talked a bit with the radiologist that read my MRI. To date, I have not gone and seen an Orthopedic or Sports Med doc. That being said, at this point I've gotten the same advice from all three (advice which I didn't want to hear) - stop doing Strongman. Not so much because it's going to hurt now, but for down the road. Truth be told my back is not the same thing as your back and I'm not trying to sway you either way, just giving you the info I've been given. Like you've experienced, the decompression tables (inversion stuff) isn't a long term fix. I'm only 27 years old. Is there a chance I could train like normal and not have a problem? Sure. But to be honest, the statistics aren't in my favor. The spine can only take so much compression / abuse before it just gives - especially for me who has the pre-existing injuries already.
 
Either way, I'd highly recommend you do everything you can to strengthen your core - specifically your transvers abdominis. These are the deep core muscles that support you spine - planks and vacuums (like they did in Arnold's day) do well to hit these muscles.
 
Just my $0.02 cents.

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